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We Don't Want To Party All The Time. Just Most Of The Time.

Talking+HeadsTo be clear, we would love it if we could just party all the time - I think that we have demonstrated that amply - but we're so much more than that, really. Sure, we can dance up a storm and toss back the whiskey, but hey: we has thoughts, too. Also, ideas. And: more thoughts!

Because that was the other thing that we were doing at BlogHer, when we weren't dancing our asses off or carving up unicorns: we were holding forth with our thoughts. And it was awesome.


You can read most of the live-blog of our panel session at the BlogHer live-blog page (note, however, for the record, that our live-blogger turned up late and missed the first fifteen minutes or so - which is, of course, when we were at our most articulate - and also that her laptop battery died and so she missed a chunk in the middle - which is also when we were at our most articulate, oddly enough. Also note that we weren't exactly transcribed perfectly verbatim, so if some stuff sounds weird... well, blame the technology, not us. Or blame us, but go easy) where you'll find gems of interrogative wisdom like this:

Catherine: Gossip has always been thought of as as something that has always been thought of as a woman thing, but today, the biggest gossip sites are run by men. Women are as fully capable of snark as men are. It would be interesting to to talk about whether gossip is something that is unique to women. What's the pop culture writing and what's the gossip. Is any writing about a celebrity gossip? Are pop culture sites like MamaPop elevating gossip? Reclaiming gossip? Or is it just being repackaged in a more acceptable way?

This actually prompted a really good discussion that is only partially recorded in the live-blog. For example:

Audience: Gossip is a really big struggle for me. I get pitched nasty stuff all the time. I write about celebrities all the time, but I don’t write gossip. US magazine write what it does for us. We perpetuate this whole gossip-centric existence. If we’re writing as feminists (which is how I write), we shouldn’t perpetuate that. The press wants us to, but we can’t.

Catherine: Why do I dislike Gwenyth Paltrow so much? I’ve written about it on MamaPop. If I’m writing about who she’s sleeping with, that would be gossip. If I’m writing about why I dislike her so much, I think that’s okay. Do I really have to be really supportive of every woman out there? Can we talk about celebrities, male and female, without being gossipy.

And:

Audience: Gossip doesn’t have to be mean. I think it’s just that gossip could be untrue. I have to remember that these people are human beings. I try to remember that. I can attack their work, but they are still human beings. I’ve noticed, especially at Perez Hilton, that there’s a headline like “Chris Brown apologizes” but then when you click on it, it takes you somewhere else. I met someone last night who writes a gossip site, but it’s fun. It’s not down and dirty gossip.

Tracey: One of the things that we’re trying to do is make it about the writing. It doesn’t matter whether you agree with us or not or whether you like what we’re saying or not, it’s still high quality writing that’s great and interesting and funny. It has substance.

And:

Tracey: (continuing on theme of feminism and gossip) We’re not just about women or for women. It’s parents. The men and women who write for the site come from the feminist gossip mindset, but I’m very uncomfortable putting any kind of label on it. It’s clear when you read the site who we are and what we think and that we are very opinionated women and men-

Catherine: -- who don’t like Gwyneth Paltrow.

And:

Audience: There was something that came up in the Palin discussion yesterday that I’d like to hear your thoughts on. What do you do when a woman does something that sets women back? Where do you draw the line?

Amy: I call them on it. It’s not like Paris Hilton is going to come to my house.

Catherine: I don’t think it sets women back to be critical of each other. It is dangerous if you’re being snarky or mean or wether it’s really going to set us back. Where do you go with a strong woman on one hand or that some of her policies do set women back? If we’re talking about what impact women can have.  It’s not helping if we point fingers at other women and say “You’re not appropriate.” If you’re really self reflective about why and what you’re talking about… It’s better to go forward and be reflective than to stay at a stop and worry.

Amy had the better answer there, I think.

I also said something about Aristotle and the Golden Mean, which caused everybody to immediately fall asleep for a moment, and then Tracey quoted Gertrude Stein and at some point Amy's baby passed out on stage which really, unequivocally proved that we are indeed rock stars. Or something.

Have a look, and come back and tell us what you think. And if there's anything that you'd like for us to take up here, as a means of continuing that awesome discussion, let us know. WE HAS MOAR THOTTS, LET US SHOW YOU THEM.














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Issa

I loved this panel. The one thing I wanted to say and just didn't, was I can't stand Gwyneth either, but I've never been able to put into words why.




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