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Kourtney Kardashian Said the Dirty A-Word

Kourtney_kardashian Kourtney Kardashian, 30, cast member of the reality television series Keeping Up with the Kardashians, announced her pregnancy on her weblog on August 13th, and, suddenly, the only pictures that accompany stories about her show her in what appear to be super shiny mumus.

Aside from any buzz generated from her reality show, in which she only rates as sixth among the cast members on IMDb, I am hard pressed to remember exactly why it is we pay attention to Kourtney and her family, but she did something important recently that is worth paying attention to. When talking about decisions she had to make with regard to her unplanned pregnancy with sometimes boyfriend Scott Disick, she said the word abortion. Out loud. To reporters.

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"I definitely thought about it long and hard, about if I wanted to keep the baby or not, and I wasn't thinking about adoption," Kardashian told People magazine. "I do think every woman should have the right to do what they want, but I don't think it's talked through enough. I can't even tell you how many people just say, 'Oh, get an abortion.' Like it's not a big deal."

When reading about how Kardashian spoke in such a surprisingly candid fashion about the fact that she originally took abortion into consideration, I was taken aback. Abortion is a hot-button issue, to put it far too lightly in a political climate with factions that see Dr. Tiller's recent murder as a justifiable homicide, so it is rare to hear the word mentioned in mainstream media within the context of an individual's decision-making process about her own fertility.

The availability of choice for all women, regardless what the moral/ethical/religious interests are of certain political groups, is essential as it relates to the health — not to leave unmentioned the issues of survival, reproductive rights, civil rights, etc. — of individual women and their families, and yet abortion is a word that even some of my most progressive friends still whisper under their breath out of fear of retribution. To hear it spoken of openly and personally is vitally important in a culture that still views individual women's fertility as public domain, and it takes the lives of women one step further out from under the disastrously myopic and reductive cry to please-think-of-the-children rather than consider the larger picture of social justice.

Before this morning, Kourtney Kardashian would not have struck me as a likely springboard for a discussion of the issue of reproductive rights, but then that's my own narrow bias against reality television personalities that are mostly noted for being booty-licious. Mea culpa.

(I have a feeling that this post will open up cans of worms that have yet to even be scientifically identified. While I look forward to the ensuing discussion, I just want to remind you kids that this is a community sandbox, so play as respectfully as possible and share your toys!)







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mouthy_broad (michele)

i think you bring up and excellent point and i am glad she was not ashamed to say it. a woman's right to choose was hard won and i don't want to see it lost. it isn't anyone else's business what choice she makes, i make or you make. we need to protect that.

rkmama

Well put, Schmutzie.

I'd say more but I'm a big fat chicken.

Flo

I clicked through to the People.com article and really like what she said, she made it clear that SHE has options that MOST women don't have: 'Kardashian says she did some intense soul-searching. "For me, all the reasons why I wouldn't keep the baby were so selfish: It wasn't like I was raped, it's not like I'm 16. I'm 30 years old, I make my own money, I support myself, I can afford to have a baby. And I am with someone who I love, and have been with for a long time."'

She's beautiful and intelligent, who knew?

Suzy Q

I am ALL FOR a woman having rights to her own body, including her reproductive capabilities. For too many years, women were owned by men, and I mean that literally.

Why *is* abortion such a dirty word? Women fought long and hard for this right, women who could very well be your mothers and grandmothers, and whether you ever make that choice or not, at least the choice is there. So far.

Abortion is never an easy decision but sometimes it's necessary, so I never judge someone's personal decision. Because, it is just that: personal.

Also, can you imagine what a better world it would be if Spencer Pratt's mother had considered it?

Alyssa

Yay for her being so honest about it. Pro-choice or anti, I don't think honest discussion can do anything but help us all understand each other better.

mouthy_broad (michele)

that is a stupdendous quote. and a great insight on the modern American woman.

Barbara

I am not pro-choice, but I love Kourtney for bringing up something that long plagued me about the entire abortion issue. I feel to many people on both sides abandon those who make the choice to abort.

On the anti-abortion side, they feel as though she reaps what she sows and on the pro-choice side, they maybe are afraid to address the enormous impact the act of abortion has on a woman for fear it will weaken the cause.

I am a supporter of post-abortion counseling to help women face their emotions so they can move forward from the decision they made. Some of these women stay pro-choice and feel as though they did the right thing at the time, but they need help to sort through the fog. Some feel as though they made the decision out of selfishness. Either way these women deserve to be helped if they are having a hard time. No matter where you fall on the issue.

lori

Well said.

cindy w

Ok, I'll preface this by saying that I am absolutely 100% pro-choice and I don't think it's anybody's business what's going on up in anybody else's uterus. And I agree that abortion shouldn't be a dirty word. Of course, I'd prefer it was rare (like if teenagers were better educated on pregnancy prevention, and if all women had access to free birth control), but I also think it should REMAIN a legal option.

That said, Kourtney said this publicly and it's now on the Internet, so someday this kid is going to grow up, and very likely could find out that their mom seriously considered aborting them. And I'm honestly not sure if I think that's ok or not. I guess it's sort of how I feel with a lot of celebrities that act like idiots when they have kids (Jon Gosselin, I'm looking at you). I just wish they'd think ahead a bit more.

Daffodil Campbell

First, I am SO STOKED that this has remained a calm and rational thread. Thank you to everyone participating (or choosing NOT to participate).

It was a hard thing to hear, that she considered terminating her pregnancy, but abortion is not SUPPOSED to be an easy topic. Whether you are pro-choice or anti-abortion, I think everyone on both sides can agree that you do not choose to have an abortion like you would choose to get a haircut. It is never a cut-and-dried decision, it is a medical procedure and an emotional journey no matter the circumstances.

I think Kourtney has brought about an opportunity for discourse - she considered all of her options, carefully. She isn't pretending that her unplanned pregnancy was the perfect situation. Becoming a parent SHOULD BE thoughtfully considered, and man, I wish more people would think about it so carefully.

That said, as an adoptive parent I wish more people would also consider adoption - and I am glad she brought it up, even if only to say she didn't consider it. Just having all of the options discussed in one coherent interview is gratifying.

Beth

I too was pleasantly surprised by Kourtney Kardashian's honesty, and think her statements will help a lot of women. She's absolutely right that there are millions upon millions of women who regret their abortions and it causes tremendous anguish for them and their families, not to mention drastically increasing their chances for destructive relationships, alcoholism, depression, and suicide.

For those who are in need of help, Abortion Changes You and Project Rachel are wonderful sources for healing!

For those who have said a better alternative is increasing access to birth control, I would HIGHLY recommend this video by Dr. Meg Meeker - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CjmUReV_jU - which shows how much we've all been fooled by that line of thinking.

I never thought I'd say this, but I hope Kourtney Kardashian becomes a wonderful role model!

iambellaluna

I'm glad she said something publically. We all knew she'd be considering it...or at least I figured she'd be considering it. I think it crosses most women's minds in that situation, pro-choice or otherwise. I'm glad she addressed the issue instead of just popping up 6mo. from now obviously NOT pregnant and leaving it up to speculation. I also really like the fact she thought about this so in-depth. Actually, I'm a little surprised. That quote from People is stupendous. She's really approaching this carefully & I have to respect that.

iambellaluna

In the world of abortion as a possibility, this is a problem that I don't think many have thought about. I think it will just be one of those things that needs to be addressed.

Personally, I was born to college-aged parents & I was a mighty huge surprise. I also know they considered terminating the pregnancy. However, I didn't find that out 'til later in my life (from a reletive)—it's not like I was 9yrs old Googling my mom's name with my buddy & an interview popped up about her pregnancy.

I think it will be interesting to see how that issue plays out. I also know a friend with a beautiful 4yr old who considered aborting because she was young & single (the dad bounced out to California & has never seen his daughter despite my friends efforts to involve him). I hope Leah never finds out...but someone may slip, just like my reletive. I don't even know how these things come up, but they do.

Elizabeth

Cindy, I have to disagree with your statement about whether it's "anybody's business what's going on up in anybody else's uterus." What's going on in the uterus is a growing person - growing just as fast if not faster than a newborn with full legal rights and protections. It REALLY bothers me that this debate tends to boil down to the "woman's right to choose" - I would ask people to finish the statement, "Choose WHAT?" Women - and men - do have a right to choose whether or not to have a child, but that right is BEFORE the baby is conceived, not after. The child deserves as much right to a happy life as his or her mother and father. This is about a lot more than "save the babies" or "women's rights," it's about a men and women being sold a bill of goods that the best way to "resolve" a crisis pregnancy is to eliminate the pregnancy, rather than the situation that makes it a crisis.

I'm glad Kourtney K. is bringing to light what she learned about how many men and women regret their abortions. I think we should all spend a lot more time listening to what they have to say about this issue than to politicians or civil rights activists who may have no personal experience with it at all.

AnotherSarah

Okay, so I guess I'll be the lone dissenter and say I'm not a huge fan of how Kourtney framed this issue.

If she HAD had an abortion, I don't think it would have been a selfish act. Just because a woman is a certain age and financial status and in a relationship does not automatically = ready for a baby. I'm not saying she is or isn't, but phrasing the decision the way she did is problematic for many woman who may have had or are considering an abortion.

It's a very personal choice, and that's why no one is qualified to make it for another person. Kourtney makes it sound like if you can check off so many boxes on a list of what makes you "ready" to have a baby, you should do it or it's "selfish". Nope, I don't buy it. Life isn't so simple.

schmutzie

AnotherSarah, I agree with you. There were a few problems that I chose not to confront due to the scope of this article, or I would have been able to write a short book, but the selfish statement definitely got under my skin, as did her doctor's statement that having a child is never regretted. Oh, that life and people and families were all that sweet.

samantha

When my mom and dad got pregnant with me, they were married but weren't sure they were ready to be parents, so they considered abortion. I know about this as part of their decision making, and it is fairly common knowledge,and it doesn't bother me at all. Hopefully it is the same for their child.

samantha

Well, I think that was just part of her decision making process, and how she felt. The decision is personal as is the decision making process, and I don't think she meant to be any kind of role model for any one else. Although, being in the spot light kind of puts you in that position whether you want it or not.

AnotherSarah

Oh gosh, I know! I had to stop myself from commenting on all her asanine statements:) I guess I look at that whole article as a glaring example of her privilage as an upper class white woman. I know, it's the rabid feminist in me. I won't apologize for it, though:)

Barbara

Wow, I hadn't thought of it that way. I thought of it as her not being embarrassed she considered it. I am sure a lot of mature and self-sufficient women have had abortions, and had other reasons for not having that child. However, her reasons for not wanting the baby seemed like she was saying was selfish. And she didn't want to make that decision based on those reasons.

At least that is what I got from it. But as I said, I am pro-life (I'm against death penalty too, so I can say that!). I may be looking at her favorably because I like her choice.

ballerinatoes

Exactly. Thank you Schmutzie and Barbara.

Christine

I have to say that I too am pleased at her honesty and openness, but I have to agree with some of the other commenters that her reasons for deciding what she has, may not be someone else's and being able to afford to have a baby may not be the deciding factor.

The calm way everyone is making their point here is such a great thing. I was able to read through each and every comment, and really consider what the writer was feeling.




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